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- From: Yoda <warrior@revenge.jedi.com>
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- Subject: Re: ESCOM SHOWS ITS TRUE COLOURS!!
- Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:03:56 GMT
- Organization: The Force!
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- Mr Vermeulen,
-
- I have got better things to do with my time than to reply to
- posts that nitpick on such things as choice of words used and
- whether or not certain email addresses are valid. However, I'll
- take the time to do so in this case, since you have totally
- misunderstood my original post...
-
- jtv@xs4all.nl (Jeroen T. Vermeulen) wrote:
-
- >Overreacting a bit are we? At least you could have tried to refrain from
- >shouting. And while I'm at it:
-
- The capitalization was there for the sake of *emphasis*, not
- to indicate SHOUTING.
-
- >1. Giving a false mail address is _not nice_.
-
- This is a publicly accessible terminal set up to use the email
- address it uses. I should point out that it is also not nice to
- fingure out whether or not Usenet postings come with valid or
- invalid mail addresses, and then publicly decry those that do
- not. There are no rules - and if there were, there'd be nobody
- to enforce them - to say that if some terminal providers choose
- to remain anonymous, then that is "not nice".
-
- >2. "Revenge of the Jedi" was renamed long before its release. There's still
- > some time to update your facts before the next movie arrives, but not much.
-
- Old news. Why has it not occured to you that perhaps the word "revenge" was
- chosen deliberately, for whatever reason, rather than an attempt was being made
- to remain faithful to the movie title?
-
- >3. This "TO CLOSE" bit flatly misrepresents the press release text you include,
- > which states that the offices are to move (or TO MOVE, if you prefer) to a
- > larger and prettier building. Some objectivity would be welcome here.
-
- Oh dear! In order to move offices, they have to close the existing ones.
- The words "TO CLOSE" were not meant to imply that AT UK was closing
- shop altogether. Anybody who read carefully what was said (quite apart
- from the press release) would have understood that.
-
- >4. Look up "sic" in a dictionary. You may find a helpful description of its
- > correct usage there.
-
- Been there, done that. The phrase "interested (sic)" was used ironically,
- since most Amiga users would quite frankly have found the news depressing
- rather than interesting.
-
- >5. After the C64 era, Commodore wasn't "a company that also happened to sell
- > PCs". It was a PC-selling company that in the end had to look to the Amiga
- > for financial support. Escom is also betting a lot of its future on the
- > Amiga, but of its own free will.
-
- Nonsense. Commodore was first and foremost a company that brought original
- products (the PET, the C64, the Amiga) to the market. They got into the PC
- market much later, and only after the PC took away their PET business
- clients. To say that C= was a "PC-selling company" is demonstrably false -
- the PC side of their operation was a net loss-maker, it never really took off,
- and the company never recovered from the image of "home computer maker" brought
- on by the success of the C64 and the A500. How many businesses insisted on
- the C= brand when making corporate PC buying decisions?
-
- >As for the press release, well, it may mean different things but lack of
- >relevant knowledge is what makes back-seat driving so easy.
-
- Sure. The relevant knowledge in this case is that the six staff members
- (soon to be two) were all long-time Amiga veterans. These are people who stuck
- by the Amiga during its darkest liquidation months, and who have knowledge
- about the Amiga UK market that simply cannot be bought. If we, the
- Amiga user/developer community, do not make a fuss about the loss of
- such individuals because of "corporate re-structuring", then where will
- it stop?
-
- >One thing is for sure: Setting up a company is different than running a stable >one and changes in staff aren't all that unlikely a result IMHO.
-
- The company is no longer being "set up" - it's now been around for
- months. The old C= in its final years was not being "set up" either,
- yet we Amiga users were always upset to hear of the periodic
- staff reductions at West Chester. Why should this particular instance
- be treated any differently? ALL the UK-based Amiga developers that
- I know - and I know nearly all of the long-timers - are VERY upset
- at this news.
-
-